Getting Ready for The PPAI Expo 2025

Lindsey Davis

Lindsey Davis

Director of Sales and Professional Development

Ashley Van Der Stuyf

Ashley Van Der Stuyf

Show Manager

Gabe Gotay

Gabe Gotay

Senior Marketing Coordinator

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GABE GOTAY

Good afternoon everybody and welcome to Promo Perspectives Live, a podcast presented by SAGE dedicated to giving promotional products distributors and suppliers tips, tricks, and insights to help grow their business.

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We are just two months away from the PPAI Expo in January 2025! It’s the largest trade show in our industry. Distributors and suppliers from all over the United States, Canada, and the rest of the world make the pilgrimage to Vegas to show off their products, discover new products, grow their network, and learn from experts and partake in all kinds of amazing events and activities surrounding the show throughout the week.

I’m joined today by two very special guests from PPAI: Director of Sales and Professional Development Lindsay Davis and Show Manager Ashley Van Der Stuyf. They’re two of the driving forces at PPAI behind planning and executing the show, and today they’re going to share with us their insights on what goes into putting together the Expo and how you can get the most out of attending the show.

ASHLEY VAN DER STUYF

Thanks for having us.

LINDSEY DAVIS

Thanks Gabe!

GABE GOTAY

To kick us off, why don’t you just tell us a little bit about who you are and what you do at PPAI?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Yeah, I’ll go first. So, I’m Lindsay Davis, like you said, I am our Director of Sales and Professional Development. So, I oversee our supplier sales team, so we sell booths and advertising for the Expo.  It’s a big part of our focus certainly at the moment. And then I also oversee our professional development, so that’s conferences, education, and right now we’re focused on Expo as well and the great education we put on there.

ASHLEY VAN DER STUYF

Yep, and I am the Show Manager, so I oversee the event operations for the Expo as well as our conferences throughout the year.

GABE GOTAY

Well, so like I said, Expo is less than two months away at this point. And for a lot of us, you know, the suppliers and distributors, we’re really only thinking about Expo for maybe a couple of months out of the year, from the time we register to attend and book our hotel rooms until we fly home from Vegas. But for you guys, I know it’s on your mind a lot longer. So how far ahead is PPAI planning the Expo?

ASHLEY VAN DER STUYF

Yep, so our main focus right now is 2025, but our planning extends even further than that. We are currently reviewing contracts and laying the groundwork for Expo 2028 through 30, which seems far away, but it is right around the corner. 

GABE GOTAY

It’ll be here before you know it especially. What are some of the challenges that go into planning such a large event?

ASHLEY VAN DER STUYF

Yep, so for me, I think event planning and challenges go hand-in-hand. And I think every event you plan, something’s going to pop up, whether it’s out of our control or just something we’ve never experienced before. But I think relying on your vendors is really a good priority to have, as well as being adaptable and just going with the flow. I think a lot of people here remember Expo Party 2024 moving from Allegiant to the ballroom… 60 days notice… but obviously that was a challenge, but has been one of my favorite events that we planned. So. 

GABE GOTAY

Just got to be able to roll with the punches and control the chaos. Well, so for the, there’s obviously two different big categories that go to the show. We’ve got the exhibitors, our suppliers, and then the attendees, the distributors. So, what are the primary goals for each of those groups of people?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Yeah, so our exhibitors, they are trying to make connections with, um, with the attendees, so, um, that might look like dinners, that might look like, uh, networking in the booth, that might look like a drink at Eye Candy. Um, but they’re trying to build new relationships, grow the ones they currently have, um, and really spend that time, uh, developing their sales pipeline for the rest of the year.

Um, attendees, I think, have much more diverse goals. I think some attendees, um, use it to learn the industry, some people are brand new. Some attendees, uh, use that event to source for specific projects they know are coming up in their year. Some are using, looking for new items, um, some use it to negotiate pricing, um, different areas like that. So, I think it really depends on what their goals are for the following year that drives their activity at Expo.

GABE GOTAY

And what does PPAI do kind of in the planning and execution process to cater to those diverse goals?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Yeah, so I mean, we really think a lot about those meaningful collisions that happen when people are in person and how we can help, uh, that happen even more. So that’s everything from assigning booths and getting organized from a just logistical perspective to planning, um, events and networking opportunities, uh, big and small that bring people together while they’re while they’re on-site.

GABE GOTAY

Well, and distributors might hear all that you have to do and think, “Wow, it’s not what I have to do. Isn’t that crazy? It’s just booking a plane ticket and getting there.” But there’s a lot more that goes into being out of town and being in Las Vegas for a week. So, you know, do you have any advice maybe for anybody that hasn’t booked their travel yet?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Oh yeah, you want to take that one?

ASHLEY VAN DER STUYF

Yeah, I would say, “What are you waiting for? Register and book your housing today!” I just booked my flight, uh, last two weeks ago. So, um, I would say get ahead of it. Pricing increases for our ticketed events are increasing in two weeks, so December 6th, they’ll go up. So take advantage of the slightly discounted rates right now.

LINDSEY DAVIS

It’s a good reminder. I have not booked my flight yet.

GABE GOTAY

Well, and see, that just should make everybody feel more comfortable. There is still time. Just because you guys are planning for 2026 and far ahead doesn’t mean that they’re too far gone if they haven’t bought their tickets yet. There’s still plenty of time.

Uh, so how about in Las Vegas itself? It can be a bit of a monster getting around. Do you guys have any tips for getting around in Vegas?

ASHLEY VAN DER STUYF

Yeah, so if you’re staying at Luxor, Excalibur, uh, PPAI organizes a shuttle that’ll take you to and from the convention center. So, uh, check out the travel and accommodations page on our website to get those hours. Um, I would say that Mandalay Bay has a tram that you could take from Luxor, Excalibur as well. And then, um, if you’re getting off the strip or outside of Mandalay Bay, use a taxi. It’s my favorite mode of transportation.

GABE GOTAY

Those are things I wish I had known on my first trip to Vegas because I was staying in the Luxor and then walking. I mean, it’s it’s a mile each way, right, to go from the Luxor to the Mandalay Bay floor, uh, and it feels like even more when you’re not seeing the daylight.

Um, how about before we get into some of the more show-specific stuff? Any other tips about like, what are some, what must-haves when you’re packing for this trip?

ASHLEY VAN DER STUYF

Comfy shoes for sure

Lindsey Davis

And lots of them. I’m a big advocate of you have to hurt your feet differently every day because like, it doesn’t matter, like they’re all gonna hurt. So, the, uh, second suitcase just for shoes, I think, is a great choice. Um, and my other favorite tip is, um, to find yourself some outside time. So, like one of the restaurants on-site, it’s, uh, Border Grill, even has a patio if you eat downstairs. So, um, because you’re right, you can spend four or five days and realize you’ve never seen the actual sunshine, uh, just the pretend one. 

GABE GOTAY

Oh, the pretend, the pretend lights and the pumped-in oxygen. It’s important to live like an actual human being while you’re there.

Okay, so let’s, why don’t we start off talking a little bit about the exhibitor side of things, our suppliers. What are the best practices for exhibitors to really maximize their return on investment to go to Expo?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Yeah, um, so I’d say a few things:

Be intentional about product sharing: I think you only get so much attention from people in your booth. They’re not going to stay and have a half-hour conversation. You’ve got a few seconds to get their attention and then maybe a few minutes. So, trying to bring your entire catalog, um, and not have a focus is going to make you more, like, less successful than you could be. So, bring what’s new, bring what is a bestseller for those people who maybe everything is new because they haven’t worked with you before.

Have a plan of attack: Know like what your main point is going to be no matter what. So, what is the thing I have to get out of my mouth when someone’s in my booth, um, and then where do I go from there?

Be prepared with good questions: That help you learn more about what that customer cares about, what accounts they have, what they’re working on right now.

Be prepared for follow-up: You know, I think we all, everyone knows you have to follow up after a show, but you’d be surprised how many people then don’t take that action or don’t take it well because they either didn’t take good notes or they thought they would remember something that they ended up forgetting, or they got back and had an email box full of a week’s worth of emails and then didn’t take the time intentionally to follow up. So, um, whether that’s leveraging SAGE ShowLink, um, on-site, the amazing lead scanning system, um, it has a great field for notes, you can even add flames like one through five of how hot the lead is. Um, it’s very cool and, uh, then you’ll be prepared when you get back to follow up right away.

GABE GOTAY

So, it can be really difficult, I know, because, like you said, the follow-up’s the most important. What is the point of going through all that if you don’t actually get something out of it at the end? 

LINDSEY DAVIS

Exactly

GABE GOTAY

With everything that’s going on, it can just be hard to keep track of all that stuff. You’re exhausted, you’re missing out on work, but it is the reason you’re there.

LINDSEY DAVIS

Absolutely. And then I would just say, go to everything. I mean, the amount of business you do on the show floor is amazing, but the amount of business you do because you went to the opening party, because you, um, went to an education session, because you spent that time, um, is I think even more incredible. Like, the conversations that happen off the show floor are just as important as the ones that happen on the show floor. So, be present and go to everything.

GABE GOTAY

I’m sure there’s already some crossover here with some of the things you mentioned, but how about the attendee side of things? Like, what can they do to maximize their experience?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Yeah, that’s a great question, too. So, um, I mean, I’m going to plug one more time, uh, SAGE here, but I mean, it, uh, leverage the SAGE Mobile app. Go with a plan. Um, you can actually create walk lists in the app, that’s so cool. And so, you make sure that you hit all the exhibitors that you want to hit while you’re there, whether that’s because you found a product in the New Product Pavilion that you have got to go see and touch or because you need to have an important conversation with a supplier you already work with. Um, so definitely go with a plan.

One of my favorite tips is reminding, uh, distributors to let their clients know they’re going to be at Expo and ask them what they should be looking for for them. Like, this is an investment you make for them as much as you make for you. And if you know they have a 5K coming up or they have a rebrand coming up, you can be keeping that in mind as you’re walking the show floor, and then you have that built-in follow-up, uh, for when you get back. And so, I think really planning ahead and making sure that you’re a customer that you’re going to be there are my two favorite tips.

GABE GOTAY

Well, so you kind of touched on this a little bit, and I don’t want to come off like I’m begging for more SAGE plugs or anything, but you mentioned the show floor itself. It’s huge. 

LINDSEY DAVIS

It’s huge. There’s, and it’s bigger even this year than it was last year. So.

GABE GOTAY

And that’s the trend I can imagine is going to continue to grow. How so, do you have any tips on actually navigating it? You know, not just showing up and being overwhelmed?

LINDSEY DAVIS
No, you’re so right, and the, um, and the app is it is a it’s a great thing to call out in the SAGE Mobile app as well. So, it’s super easy to search by product, to search by booth number, search by company name, and then the map just like zooms right in on where you need to go and it gives you directions to get there. And it’s extremely helpful, um, to to get around. So, it’s definitely the best tool.

ASHLEY VAN DER STUYF

Yeah, I would say take your time. Don’t feel like you have to rush through the show floor. Um, it can be intimidating. So, you have, you have three days. So, take advantage of those days.

GABE GOTAY

Well, and I think it also ties into how well you plan that ahead of time, like you guys had mentioned, you know, know what you’re going for. If you have specific projects that you’re working on, you know, try to figure out what products you want to see because you can search by the products that people are going to have there. And that way, you’ve made your plan on how you’re going to walk. Like, I’m, I’m a very efficient planner when I go on any kind of trip. I don’t want like, even just the grocery store. I try to make it so it’s one clean pass and not walking back and forth the entire time.

Well, let’s talk about some of the other things that the show has to offer besides just the show floor because, believe it or not, that’s not the whole thing. There’s a lot more going on. Uh, what kind of, you know, special events and experiences are going to be available at this year’s Expo?

ASHLEY VAN DER STUYF

Oh, my favorite topic. There’s a lot! So, I’ll go through our ticketed Events first. So, um, starting off on conference day, we have the PPAI Expo Networking Lunch, a $15 lunch where can you get, get that in Vegas? And you get some great content to go with it. Lindsay, you want to talk about that session a little bit?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Yeah, I’d love to. Um, so it’s a new session this year, um, it’s moderated by Danny Rosin, our incoming, incoming board chair at the moment, um, and it will be with panelists, uh, distributor panelists from our PPAI 100 list, sharing some of their like best sales tips. And so, I think it’s a great way to kick off the year with, um, some sales, um, executives that have had some huge wins in the last few years and hopefully learn a little bit of what makes, uh, makes the magic there for them.

GABE GOTA

What about some of the other events? I mean, can you tell me, I know one of the really exciting ones is the Pitch. Can you tell me a little bit about that?

LINdSEY DAVIS

Yes, that’s a fun one. Let me do that one. Okay, so the Pitch is sort of our combination of Shark Tank meets, um, The Voice, where, um, seven suppliers get up and they, uh, pitch their product, uh, to judges for judges that are with their backs turned. It’s a blind pitch, um, and if the judge who are all distributors would buy the product, pitch the product, they turn around. Um, and so at the end, they give feedback, some positive, some maybe a little bit more critical on why they did turn around or why they didn’t. Um, it’s so much fun. We usually have a lot of laughs, um, and we actually have four new judges this year. So, uh, we’ll be talking about that and announcing it in a few days here, actually. So, um, we have four new distributor judges joining us, uh, on stage.

GABE GOTAY

That’s very cool. 

LINDSEY DAVIS

And there’s four bars this year instead of two, so the lines will be shorter for drinks. Exactly. 

GABE GOTAY

Well, because there’s, I guess, there’s really three goals at these kind of events, right? There’s to learn, to network, and to drink, right? 

LINDSEY DAVIS

Absolutely. It’s promo! 

GABE GOTAY

Along those lines, why don’t you tell me a little bit about Promo and Pints?

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

Oh, yes, Promo Pints is back and, uh, better than ever. So, we have some organized meetups that’ll take place throughout the show floor or throughout the show. Um, we have the Inclusive Impact Meetup, Women in Promo Meetup, Technology Meetup, and the Emerging Leaders Meetup. So, and you can also just go and get a drink and meet new friends.

GABE GOTAY

And it’s not it doesn’t have to be all business all the time. I mean, in fact, you know, we’ll talk about this maybe in some of the bonus content I’m going to have with some exhibitors and things like that, but you can’t be all business all the time because it’s just not genuine. Part of having these events is giving people the chance to let their guard down and really get to know each other on a more personal level because that’s who you want to be doing business with. 

LINDSEY DAVIS

People work with people they like. 

GABE GOTAY

How about pickleball? 

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

Yes, play a friendly game of pickleball, which brings us back to pack those comfy shoes. So, uh, I think that there’s a fun way to let loose is just play a game of pickleball, grab somebody you don’t know or organize a meetup and play a game. So, that’ll be fun. 

LINDSEY DAVIS

There will be a couple, uh, promo celebrity matches as well, so keep your eye out for that. 

GABE GOTAY

I, I know it seems crazy that I haven’t because I feel like I’m the exact demographic that they’ve been pushing into. I haven’t played pickleball yet, and my understanding it’s basically just like the middle ground between table tennis and actual tennis?

LINDSEY DAVIS

If you added like 15 super confusing rules.

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

Oh, there’s a lot of rules, um, but yes, um.

GABE GOTAY

Well, that’s exciting. I’ll do my best to not make a fool of myself because I’m definitely going to check it out. 

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

We can play together.

GABE GOTAY

Okay, good. Then you can tell me all the rules that I’m missing out on. How about some of the PPAI events? I know there’s been some changes this year to the opening reception.

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

Yes, the opening reception is in a new location this year, so it’s going to be held at Skyfall, which is the 64th floor of Delano. Um, so it’s a great way to continue the networking after conference day and enjoy some cool views. 

GABE GOTAY

And then how about the, it used to be called the Party of Two, but as of last year, it’s not the …

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

The Expo Party! 

GABE GOTAY
The Expo Party. Tell me a bit about that.

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

Also in a new location, um, Swingers Las Vegas, it is brand new, they just opened their doors November 8th, um, it is a fun mini-golf, uh, venue that’s kind of Old English theme decor, um, on campus, in Mandalay Bay, so an easy walk. So, I’m really excited about that. 

GABE GOTAY

And then throughout the show, besides some of these specific things, there’s going to be a lot of other, like, uh, meetups and lounges and things like that, right?

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

Yeah, so, um, keep an eye out for SAGE push notifications. We’ll have some popup treats throughout the show as well as the Recharge Lounge is back and bigger. So, uh, grab a massage or just kind of catch up on some work. And then we have a, um, Coffee Lounge that’ll be on the show floor as well. So, grab yourself a cup of coffee.

Also, yeah, and then, um, some other just lounges where you could sit. I feel like we really wanted to focus on being comfortable this year, and like we mentioned, it’s a giant show floor. Sometimes we just need to rest, catch up on some work, and then get back out there. So.

GABE GOTAY

It’s a lot of time at your feet on this show, and I feel like we’ve driven that home a lot, but it’s, it’s almost impossible to overstate it.

LINDSEY DAVIS

Agreed. 

GABE GOTAY

I, I had even heard somebody telling me about not just having different shoes because they wear out different parts of your feet, but like, be aware of what it is you’re going to be doing, if you’re going to be standing versus walking, you know, which is going to be a difference between exhibitors and attendees. You’re going to want different kinds of shoes for those kinds of things.

Uh, all right, what about, let’s talk to you, when it comes to these events, how can people plan to actually make all of these things? Should they just show up and look for them, or do is there resources they can use to find them ahead of time?

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

Yeah, yep, so, um, tickets can be purchased through registration. If you’ve already registered, you can go back in and modify your registration. Um, the meetups we, it’s pre-registration recommended, but you don’t have to. You could just show up and have a good time, but those ticket events like the opening reception, the lunch, and the party, go ahead and get that added to your registration. 

GABE GOTAY

And were those part of the things that you said they were going up, uh, in a couple of weeks?

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

Yes, December 6th, so take advantage of it. Got two weeks left. 

GABE GOTAY

Well, some of you listening live now, obviously, you still have time. This episode goes out next Wednesday, so there should be still a lot of time if you’re listening to this episode anytime when it came out, go and register for these things now. Save a little bit of money. This is really, these events and experiences are really one of the major parts of the show. ‘Cause there are, there are trade shows, you know, all year all around the country for showing off product, and they’re important, and it’s an important part of the show, but everybody is going to be here, and you’ve got to go to these kinds of things to really get the face time.

Um, so let’s circle back to what you talked about earlier with the importance of follow-up after the show. Like, why is that so crucial? Like, what for, uh, your success?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Yeah, absolutely. So, um, you know, I think it’s really your first opportunity to prove who you are as a company. I mean, if you have promised to send a sample or a quote or or, um, to check in in a month because you know someone’s got a project coming up, that’s your first chance to share and show, like, “Yes, I, I do what I say I’m going to do,” which might probably means my order is going to deliver on time and all of those things. So, I think that’s your first chance to, to really give that, um, customer experience.

And then frankly, I think people work on what’s right in front of them, and so getting that out and making sure it’s right in front of that customer, and they have a chance to touch, feel, hold, fall in love with that product is, is what makes people move it forward.

GABE GOTAY

Well, there’s this is a stat I heard earlier this year, and it’s stuck with me because I’ve brought it up in just about every podcast or webinar I’ve done since, where it’s the importance of building your brand, right? Um, because that is, especially for the exhibitors, that’s what it is for here. There are going to be some attendees who come with specific projects in mind, and they might be looking to pull the trigger on a purchase, but the stat that I heard earlier in the year is that at any given time, somebody who sees one of your pieces of marketing efforts, and that is what coming to the Expo is, is it’s a big marketing effort, 95% of the people that see that are not in the market to buy that product right then. So, your job is to get in their headspace and build your brand in their headspace, which is the importance of follow-up is just that first contact at the show and continuing to nurture that as you go.

So, do you have any tips on how to continue to nurture after the show?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Oh, that’s a great question. Um, yeah, so I think one of my favorite tips for that is to leverage your good old Outlook calendar or whatever email service you use, um, because you’re right, like if you’re an exhibitor, the likelihood that someone’s going to walk in your booth and be looking for your specific product is so low. They, they may not have been asked for it in a long time. They might not have ever sold it before. And so, I think making sure that you have a cadence of checking in with people, especially those leads that you know have use for your product line, maybe it aligns really well with their brand, maybe it, uh, they have a client that it definitely has a use for it. So, that you remember to stay on that, um, throughout the year, because we’re all going to get to April and have forgotten about all the conversations we had at Expo. And if you remember to understand that throughout the year, you’ll, you’ll stay in front of them. So, that’s probably my favorite, somewhat low-tech, uh, tip for that.

GABE GOTAY

Yeah, setting up your automations, just setting up the way to know when to…

LINDSEY DAVIS

Way to make it much more tech-savvy, Gabe. I like that. 

GABE GOTAY 

It’s just one of those marketing buzzwords, right?

Uh, well, and you know, you mentioned earlier, too, how when you get home, you’ve been away from what your norm normally doing in your day job, you’re swamped with emails. Do you have any tips on things they can do while they’re still in Las Vegas that will make that follow-up process easier?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Ooh, um, frankly, I mean, I feel like follow-ups are a little bit like working out. Like people are like, “Oh, when’s the best time to work out?” When you’re going to do it, that’s the answer.

Um, and so I think it’s about having an honest thought process with yourself of what’s going to work for me. Do I need to write the note down right now? Do I need to send the email right now? Uh, do I need to do it every evening? Like, what what actually will work for me in the process?

So I think truly it’s about what works for you. 

GABE GOTAY

Some people it might be in the evenings after you get back from happy hours or things like that. Some people, they’re getting back from those happy hours, they’re getting to their hotel rooms and they are getting right in the bed, so they might need to make sure they’re doing it in the morning.

Cuz like we said about, you know, keeping up and keeping that cadence, uh, you don’t… How often do you put on a jacket that you haven’t worn in a year and you find a business card from every single time that you and you’re like, “Oh, I should have followed up, you know, get those cards out of your pocket, get them into, you know, Showlink or whatever lead system you’re using to get those things done.”

Then, um, all right, well, do you guys have any other, you know, thoughts or insights that you’d like to share with the audience?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Uh, I’d love to share a tiny bit about conference day, please. Um, so I am really excited about what we’ve got planned for this year. We have a keynote speaker um, who will open up the morning talking about sales. Uh, she actually comes from a large sales organization. We’re announcing this in like 10 days, so you’re getting a slightly um, uh, vague version from me here, um, but it’s going to be a phenomenal session.

Uh, we’ve got a ton of amazing industry speakers who will talk in five different rooms all day. We have tracks that are specifically focused on sales, some on marketing, some on Trends and research, uh, we have one focused on business strategy, uh, we have some focused on um, responsibility, so sustainability, CSR, DEI.

So we have some truly great content from from industry leaders as well and then we do have a keynote Tuesday morning that’ll be much more marketing focused, so really those two big areas of our industry, sales and marketing, um, with a focus there. Both of them have experience in the promo industry uh, during their career either from like an agency perspective or uh, sales and um, leveraging it during their sales process perspective which we found really fun as we did prep calls with them. So I think the uh, attendees will really enjoy that tie in as they move through.

GABE GOTAY

Well, that’s exciting, so that’s getting announced in the next couple of weeks here?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Yes, so uh, next week’s all about the pitch and the week after is all about our Keynote so keep an eye out on uh, PPAI’s uh, social media, PPAI HQ, um, and and you’ll be seeing those there.

GABE GOTAY

So social media, is that going to be the best place for people to keep up with any other announcements or updates leading up to the show?

LINDSEY DAVIS

Absolutely. So if you’re on our email list you get those too, but frankly our um, our social media, either Instagram or Facebook, have um, a lot of great updates coming soon and uh, definitely the place to watch.

GABE GOTAY

And if people have any questions, what is the best place for them to reach out and ask those?

ASHLE VAN DER STUYF

Yeah, so like and shoot us an email at expositions@ppai.org if they have any registration questions, uh, registration@ppai.org or they can visit our website and click, sorry, click the contact us button.

GABE GOTAY

All right, well, I want to thank you guys, Lindsey and Ashley, for joining us today. It is an amazing thing that you guys do putting this together. I can’t imagine all the logistics that have to go behind it. I know I couldn’t have kept up with something like that, but everybody who goes to the show loves it. You guys do such an excellent job and we’re so appreciative of you and I’m personally very gracious that you came on the podcast so thank you guys so much.

LINDSEY & ASHLEY

Thank you, thanks for having us.

GABE GOTAY

Absolutely.